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type this, congress is voting on universal healthcare and to say the least, I hope to God this 1,990 (roughly) page bill does not pass and become a law. If it were to pass, it would be the worst possible thing to happen to America right now. If it were to pass, 1/6 of our economy would be dictated…
I fill the urge to respond to this, not because I support or approve of Obama but because of other reasons.
It is the truth that our health care program in the United States is not working any longer, we can’t afford to keep our health care program. People can’t even get the basic care they need for simple disease and thus end up dying. And I wish I could say that it is fully 100% their fault but it is not, it is our corrupt program that charges people thousands of bills to treat them. This is the land that believe everyone has the right to a healthy life, that thou shalt not judge, but yet we turn sick and dying people away because they can’t put up the cash. Yes there are some programs were you can be billed and pay it off in time like anything but, you end up paying ridiculous amounts of interest on that.
Lets take an example:A poor couple has a child because they want what every couple wants, a family. They are lower middle class, both working fully time minimum wage jobs, they get some benefits from there job but aren’t fully covered. And that goes for their kid then too. My family wasn’t wealthy when I was grown, we were middle class but I can not imagine being in the position where my parents couldn’t give me something for my simple flu or chicken pox.
Let me go back and say I do not support a universal health care, or Obama in full. I agree we need change, but at least he is TRYING something. He isn’t Bush, he isn’t ignoring the fact and putting all his effort into a war we can’t win and shouldn’t be fighting.
But don’t get me started on Obamas views on that either.
First, why is it MY personal responsibility to help a family? They chose their lifestyle, as I do mine. My parents work hard for the money they have and along with that, they get health insurance. Why should my parents have to work harder for someone else? That is clearly not their responsibility. With that said, America was founded on the principle of “Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.” If the bill were to pass, my right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happinesses would be tampered with. How could one possibly be happy waiting for weeks, months, and maybe even years to see the doctor of their choosing immediately? For example, a little over a year a go, I was in a car in car accident. Although I did not suffer from any visible ailments, I had severe whiplash. If whiplash goes untreated, the effects can be devastating to the body. So, let’s say we had universal healthcare when this happened. I would of had to wait for God knows how long to see a doctor, even though my parents have insurance. Wouldn’t that be unfair to me? Indeed. Plus it is already hard enough for the people on medicaid to see a doctor. 15 million more people will be add to it, which would make it even harder for the lower class to see doctors. Not to mention, medicaid and medicare will run out in 6-7 years.
And I do agree with the fact that people shouldnt be turned away from seeing a doctor, but like I just said, PLENTY of people will be turned away once the bill goes into effect.
Lastly, I understand that you’re glad that he’s attempting to do something but the fact of the matter is that this bill is irreversible. When the Dems are finally brought to their senses when they see how our great nation will be brought down by this bill, unfortunately, it will already be too late for America.
And one more thing, when the founding fathers wrote the Bill of Rights, they stated in the Tenth Amendment, “The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.” Healthcare is not in the Constitution nor the Bill of rights, making it States rights to choose universal healthcare.
Valid points.
No matter what at this point, whatever we decide to do, change will happen and that change won’t be easy. We are in a shithole in the US. We are fucked in every direction, our economic system is slowing getting better but still it’s pretty fucked. The war has and will be never ending. Our school system is bullshit and laughable.
I agree that the constitution says nothing about that, but the government has stuck it’s hand in a hundred other things…one of the major ones was bailing out the car industries and banks. But hey, we’d be COMPLETELY fucked if our banks went to shit because for some reason we are so damn reliant on them, along side fucking cars. But instead of taking the trillions of dollars it took to bail them out and giving EVERY person in American a cut of that money and helping out the ENTIRE economy, we bail out the rich.
I’m not going to be a huge cock here and try to start a religious war. Or even call you out on anything but it’s the mentality that what you work for is yours and yours alone is what is killing this world. Everyone is so selfish. I’ve seen you post things about god before and ,again I state not trying to start a fucking tumblr war, isn’t there something in the almighty bible about sharing and caring for the less fortunate?
Obama has done nothing so far, it’s a tough mother fucking job. The economy is tanking, the war isn’t getting better, everyone is complaining about health care and gay marriage. I can’t imagine doing his job or even wanting to. Especially after following in the footsteps of Bush’s 8 year term.
There is always two sides of the story, there always will be. One person will believe one thing will fix all problems and another will think differently. No one can seem to come to an agreement, if we can agree that we need a better health care system…lets fix that. Maybe not an entire reform but something else, and who gives a fuck about the money. We are already in TRILLIONS of debt because of the facefuck of a war that Bush started. But no one complained or raised as much hell as they have for this. And that is America in a nutshell. We bicker about the good things for us an can’t decide what is the best solution, but once it is off our shores, once it isn’t starring us in the face…We could care less half the time.
It still boggles my mind that we can go out and try to fight this war and act all high and mighty because we are a free country, but everything is tanking in our country. Our government is split on nearly all of the highly controversial subjects that many other countries can agree on.
Again, i hope you do not take offense. I’m just trying to debate.
I don’t know man, it just seems to me that things are going down hill and at some point a generation is going to have to take a hit. If that means some people are going to have to spend a little extra on taxes, or that means that for a while America has to stop acting like a world leader/super hero for the rest of the world, or something like that? It’s inevitable.
And as far as health insurance, what has to happen is there needs to be an evening out of the people like me who can walk in and get a great doctor in a few minutes and the countless other people who have to wait and see a shit doctor. Yeah that means I have to wait, but at some point the general better healthcare of poorer families would mean less doctor visits for the lower class. When you take into account the vicious cycle of sick and poor getting sicker and poorer then its easy to see that a few charitable tax dollers go a long way.
The way I see it, there are economists, doctors, all sorts of very educated people working for Obama right now; people who know more about the minute details of the economy, the logic and application of health care systems etc. than you or I ever will. They know more about this whole deal than I pretend to, so I’ll do the same thing I do when I go to the doctor. I’ll shut up and take what the expert gives me.
I hope nobody reads this. I don’t know what the fuck I’m talking about.
http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-5738-St-Louis-Political-Buzz-Examiner~y2009m7d22-A-plain-language-summary-of-HR-3200-better-known-as-the-health-care-reform-bill
that is all
Thanks, that was enlightening, I still worry about how much of that is effected on how the guy read it and how he wanted to read it.
I’d read the whole bill myself but I cant even manage the required reading for my classes.
